• Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.

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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Funny how Starbucks doesn't dispute the key issue, the unsecured lid. They only dispute one detail about when the dog was in her lap. Wtf?

      What difference does the lid make? It is not designed to have a dog bouncing around jostling the cup. It provides a minimal shield against spilling.

      Carrying hot liquids in a car that you intend to drink has inherent risk. If you are not prepared to take that risk, you should take steps to limit the risk.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      Hot coffee is not an exceedingly dangerous product.

      Yes it is. Especially in the way McDonald's served it. Excessively, dangerously hot in inadequate containers.

      Easily remedied. Avoidable severe injuries, even to children.

      McDonald's did nothing.

      Bullshit.

      You order hot coffee, you get hot coffee.

      If you spill it, it's your own fault.

      People need to take personal responsibility for their own clumsiness.

      And people should take responsibility for creating dangerous situations and for the injuries they cause.

      No child scalded -- absolutely unnecessarily -- was at fault for his injuries. McDonald's was substantially at fault, however the injuries occurred, because McDonald's served dangerously hot coffee in inadequate containers. Whatever the degree of parental fault under the particular facts of any particular case, McDonald's was substantially at fault every time.

      The injured kid, never. McDonald's, always. The injured kid had no way to mitigate the danger it encountered. McDonald's had every opportunity, and the remedy was easy. Coffee less hot. Safer containers.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      I'd rather live in a society caveat emptor. I don't need a nanny state.

      When your kids are severely injured you will surprise yourself at how quickly you change your attitude.

      That which does not kill you makes you stronger.
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      And often it leaves a child with permanent severe disabilities.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Funny how Starbucks doesn't dispute the key issue, the unsecured lid. They only dispute one detail about when the dog was in her lap. Wtf?

      You've read the pleadings and the briefs?

      In the article I saw, they said a video shows the cup did have a "hot sleeve".
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Funny how Starbucks doesn't dispute the key issue, the unsecured lid. They only dispute one detail about when the dog was in her lap. Wtf?

      What difference does the lid make? It is not designed to have a dog bouncing around jostling the cup. It provides a minimal shield against spilling.

      So here's another way that McDonald's was at fault. Defective cup and lid. If you're going to hand scalding hot coffee to a person in a car, it should be in a less dangerous container.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      And often it leaves a child with permanent severe disabilities.

      Tell them not to spill hot coffee.

      Normal kids deal with danger, ride dirt bikes in the woods, set things on fire, swing on rope swings, crash skateboards on asphalt, play tackle football, etc.

      Some injuries happen. That's part of growing up. And you learn to be careful, and to protect yourself.

      If you keep your kids protected in a bubble, they will grow up to be a helpless vegetable.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      Hot coffee is not an exceedingly dangerous product.

      Yes it is. Especially in the way McDonald's served it. Excessively, dangerously hot in inadequate containers.

      Easily remedied. Avoidable severe injuries, even to children.

      McDonald's did nothing.

      Bullshit.

      You order hot coffee, you get hot coffee.

      If you spill it, it's your own fault.

      People need to take personal responsibility for their own clumsiness.

      And people should take responsibility for creating dangerous situations and for the injuries they cause.

      No child scalded -- absolutely unnecessarily -- was at fault for his injuries. McDonald's was substantially at fault, however the injuries occurred, because McDonald's served dangerously hot coffee in inadequate containers. Whatever the degree of parental fault under the particular facts of any particular case, McDonald's was substantially at fault every time.

      The injured kid, never. McDonald's, always. The injured kid had no way to mitigate the danger it encountered. McDonald's had every opportunity, and the remedy was easy. Coffee less hot. Safer containers.

      Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy HOT coffee.

      If you don't want HOT coffee, then order iced coffee, or water.

      If you buy a knife, and you impale yourself, are you going to sue the knifemaker for not putting more padding on the knife blade?

      Take personal responsibility for your own decisions & idiocy, instead of expecting the world to do everything for you.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      And often it leaves a child with permanent severe disabilities.

      Tell them not to spill hot coffee.

      Good idea. But your trolling has become tiresome.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      When your kids are severely injured you will surprise yourself at how quickly you change your attitude.

      When Injuring my kids it's because they broke rule # 1 dont touch it if your not going to buy it,rule #2 gets your ass locked in the cellar and it's why didnt u raise ur hand to ask first billy?
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      Hot coffee is not an exceedingly dangerous product.

      Yes it is. Especially in the way McDonald's served it. Excessively, dangerously hot in inadequate containers.

      Easily remedied. Avoidable severe injuries, even to children.

      McDonald's did nothing.

      Bullshit.

      You order hot coffee, you get hot coffee.

      If you spill it, it's your own fault.

      People need to take personal responsibility for their own clumsiness.

      And people should take responsibility for creating dangerous situations and for the injuries they cause.

      No child scalded -- absolutely unnecessarily -- was at fault for his injuries. McDonald's was substantially at fault, however the injuries occurred, because McDonald's served dangerously hot coffee in inadequate containers. Whatever the degree of parental fault under the particular facts of any particular case, McDonald's was substantially at fault every time.

      The injured kid, never. McDonald's, always. The injured kid had no way to mitigate the danger it encountered. McDonald's had every opportunity, and the remedy was easy. Coffee less hot. Safer containers.

      Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy HOT coffee.

      I don't buy fast food.

      But customers, and especially children, should be protected from McDonald's gross neglect, especially when the dangers are great and the remedy simple.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      I don't buy fast food.

      But customers, and especially children, should be protected from McDonald's gross neglect, especially when the dangers are great and the remedy simple.

      It's not "gross neglect". It's a cup of HOT coffee, exactly as ordered.

      If the bottom of the cup exploded, and burned the person, you might have a point.

      Should children be protected from metal dirt bikes and aluminum baseball bats?

      Every year, thousands of kids die in backyard swimming pools. Should swimming pool makers be sued for not keeping children safe?

      Whether it's a sharp knife, a swimming pool, or a cup of hot coffee, the item is delivered as ordered. If you fuck yourself up, it's your own fault. If you don't like dangerous items, then don't buy it.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      I don't buy fast food.

      But customers, and especially children, should be protected from McDonald's gross neglect, especially when the dangers are great and the remedy simple.

      It's not "gross neglect".
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      A jury disagreed with you.

      And you have become a bore.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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    • Why the fuck do idiots feel the need to drink hot coffee in a car, while there's a dog bouncing around next to them?

      Drink the coffee at home, or at the office, in a more stable environment.

      And while we're on the subject of coffee, nobody needs drive-through coffee from McDonalds or Starbucks. Just have a coffee maker at home, or use the coffee maker at the office. Every workplace I've been to has a free coffee maker.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      I don't buy fast food.

      But customers, and especially children, should be protected from McDonald's gross neglect, especially when the dangers are great and the remedy simple.

      It's not "gross neglect".
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      A jury disagreed with you.

      And you have become a bore.

      Most juries have agreed with me.

      And the one 1994 successful lawsuit is regularly cited as an example of why we need tort reform.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      And often it leaves a child with permanent severe disabilities.

      noe dicking that skank with the weak dna bank did moar harm than a scading could produce or a coathanger could have fixed in the first place ;turtle3;
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      So here's another way that McDonald's was at fault. Defective cup and lid. If you're going to hand scalding hot coffee to a person in a car, it should be in a less dangerous container.

      Why is the burden on the company delivering what you ordered?

      If you can't handle a hot beverage, then don't order it. If you order it anyway, the risk should be on you. Most of the population can handle boiling water. We shouldn't build our society around the tiny fraction that can't.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Do we have pics? I've been burned by lots of things hot water, coffee, sulfuric acid, cutting touches, hot grills, hot guns. Some of them were pretty bad but never went to the hospital and I only have minimal scarring. Theses law suits are bullshit, just a way to make a buck.

      Yeah, a kid on a tricycle ran into me once, it didn't hurt. Fuck all those people who get hit by a truck and then sue for medical costs. They're just scammers.

      We're not talking about getting hit by a truck
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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    • Fucking hell America. Next you will have spanky suing fast food joints blaming them for being a fat cunt.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Why is the burden on the company delivering what you ordered?

      There shouldn't be. They should just pour it into your lap. Caveat emptor.

      If you don't want coffee poured into your lap don't order it.
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      Coffee should be hot , especially as it cools down some when half and half or milk is added.

      Dumb bitch had the coffee on her lap and was taking the lid off while the car drove down the road.

      It spilled and burned her.

      100% her fault.

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      Nope. She was parked at the time. And was holding the cup between her knees on the seat, not "on her lap". She was pulling the plastic tab, and instead the whole lid came off. She got third degree burns, needed skin grafts, spent years in medical treatment and was permanently disfigured.

      So she knew the coffee was hot and spilled it on herself ?
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      The jury is just your typical responsibility adverse morons who rendered a judgement based on emotion.

      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      You sound like a lawyer who is trying to justify theri egregious ambulance chasing behavior.
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      So she knew the coffee was hot and spilled it on herself ?
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      The jury is just your typical responsibility adverse morons who rendered a judgement based on emotion.

      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      When you cook at home you let your food or drink cool before you eat it right. Why wouldn't you do the same thing when eating out?

      I've never had the problem, but I'm more careful than McDonald's is with their customers.

      They were on notice for ages. They were even aware of children being scalded. It wouldn't have been difficult to have changed their coffee or their cups and avoided horrific injuries to customers and their children.

      They neglected to do what was in their power to do.

      Put on notice?

      is this double secret probation or something ?
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    • Re: Here we go again. Starbux customer suing them for hot tea that burned them and killed their dog.
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      The jury is just your typical responsibility adverse morons who rendered a judgement based on emotion.

      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      You sound like a lawyer who is trying to justify theri egregious ambulance chasing behavior.

      No, I sound like someone who thinks liability should be apportioned according to the parties' differing degrees of fault. I didn't sit in on the McDonald's trial, but the jury there apportioned liability 80/20, McDonald's/old lady. She was assigned a share of the blame.
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      No, you and McDonald's are the ones who are responsibility adverse. They served an exceedingly dangerous product, and did so unnecessarily. And callously.

      Absolutely no excuse for endangering children the way they have.

      It's all foreseeable (and actually foreseen) and easily corrected.

      Hot coffee is not an exceedingly dangerous product.

      Yes it is. Especially in the way McDonald's served it. Excessively, dangerously hot in inadequate containers.

      Easily remedied. Avoidable severe injuries, even to children.

      McDonald's did nothing.

      Bullshit.

      You order hot coffee, you get hot coffee.

      If you spill it, it's your own fault.

      People need to take personal responsibility for their own clumsiness.

      100% sure he (or she) is a lib who never learned the concept of improving yourself though taking responsibility through your actions.

      Probably had a single mom on welfare who ranted and raved about how everything was men's fault for a role model.
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